Captured implies that the State didn’t already function as a tool of capital

Yes, although the US pulled itself back enough with some of FDR’s reforms that it kicked the can down the road a few generations, whereas the Weimar Republic actually collapsed.

They’re banking on the 6-3 conservative majority being willing to use their power.

When organized labor is crushed, what comes next is never pretty (see: 1930s Germany).

Still, it’s unnecessary and controlling. Is there a context where the use of the network for undesirable, but not illegal, activity that wouldn’t get you into trouble anyways? Its really not the institutions business what people do in their dorms or on campus faculty housing that doesn’t impact other people or endanger the network/school.

Quiet, grandpa

Except it doesn’t? Any of the things TikTok would do it can still do when it reconnects to another Wifi network, or the cellular service, location tracking, etc. It’s not like TikTok is a worm that stays on a network – it records data more than uploads it.

Hey, remember when College and University were for adults? What’s next, permission slips for field trips? I’d feel so fucking insulted if the administration of the school I had gone to had decided they knew what was best for me to view online.

Nice.

Trying to ban everyone from sexual content until 18 is a uniquely modern take.

You keep equating all forms of media that might depict sex, nakedness, or even erotica as porn.

Maybe they think your parents made this account for you before you were born

I just think that people should be given access to comprehensive sex ed early enough in life that it’s before they end up viewing something like pornography through their own actions.

What is the unprecedented threat?

The ease of access of it now, and the extreme shock value of a lot of what even shows up on homepages of major porn sites is unique compared to the pre-internet days.

we’ve literally been making porn in every form of media since we were painting on cave walls. Porn ≠ erotic art or even sexually explicit material. Children should not have their first exposure to genitalia through media made with the express purpose of sexual gratification.

Part of allowing people to develop, evolve, and mature their sexuality on their own should involve preventing formative experiences from being based on fantasy.

Pretty sure that’s already the case in South Korea, having to use your real identity online in certain cases. We can’t let it expand worldwide.

Kids have already protested these changes. Not to mention this goes all the way up to University, where adults are.

Does that mean that I grew up in a fascist west? Before diversity and inclusion were a thing anyone talked about?

No, because the political context of the 80s was different – there wasn’t a ban on it in your childhood because there was no such thing, even if some of the ideas and policies existed, they wouldn’t have been labelled “EDI” or “DEI”. The current move to explicitly ban these policies and offices from schools (and punish corporations for having it) is in reaction to a shift in mainstream American political discourse.

I don’t understand how fascism just POPS into the discussion

It doesn’t – the DeSantis Administration has continually built up a reputation of authoritarian governing methods combined with right-wing economic and social policies. IE: Fascism, or at the least, overt right-wing authoritarianism.

He governs Florida the way Erdogan governs Turkey, or Viktor Orban governs Hungary, attacking political opposition and consolidating power. He has removed 2 democratically elected District Attorneys and appointed his political allies in their place, including one who lost the election to the removed official. His political appointees are currently reshaping a public college into a “Hillsdale of the South”, after the private Christian college in Pennsylvania or somewhere. That college was previously a haven for trans and gay people. The Florida State Guard is shaping up to be a 21st-century version of Brownshirts, answerable only to the Governor.

I’m from the 80’s. It didn’t feel fascist to not grow up with diversity and inclusion classes You also grew up in a far less polarised time, which isn’t to say you grew up in a time when “racism was defeated” or something, just that more openly violent bigotry wasn’t tolerated. While I don’t exactly think that US presidents of the 80s were egalitarians who honoured the Civil Rights movement, they said all the correct things publically, condemning right-wing violence unequivocally.

Also, there aren’t “classes”. I believe you’re conflating things like critical race theory and EDI. Diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives are more of an institutional outlook that tries to consciously account for the fact that people hold certain prejudices that might lead them to pass up someone more qualified for the role. Most American corporations have DEI initiatives, even though most American corporations are still run by white men. It’s just that those white men are now thinking “Well, what other perspectives can we bring to the company to make us more competitive, and what are we taking for granted that might be impacting our business?” It’s not ideological, in fact, most of these corporations donate to business-friendly candidates of both parties. Public organizations can have these initiatives too, which is why you hear about it in schools and universities, but it’s still more about the teachers and workers of the school and not the classes.

I agree, but I don’t think that’s this person. I also poked around their post and comments and I didn’t get the feeling they were some rabid Proud Boy or whatever, and I would rather try to engage with people like Hurglet before the actual right-wing does.

It was probably unproductive of me to try to talk about it further with them, and I really wanted to sign off with “btw I’m nonbinary” on every reply I made

Exactly, they don’t view children as people, they view them as objects and extensions of their parents/guardians.

I genuinely think that children’s ease of access to pornographic content is a serious and unprecedented threat to their well-being. This is why I think it was a mistake to normalise kids having unlimited access to internet-enabled mobile devices, and why I think having the family computer in a public-ish place is smart. It doesn’t even necessarily have to result in your kid being socially impacted, if you just limit their time on it but still allow them some autonomy. I had friends growing up where their router shut down automatically overnight so they couldn’t use their phones when they should be sleeping, but they were still just as hip and cool as anyone else.

What nooo you’re supposed to hate trans people enough to sacrifice personal freedoms and liberty!