Calling teslas “Swasticars” and CT’s “”Wankpanzers” was supposed to be a joke.

Watching planes doesn’t have to be a Disney experience with a soundtrack.

better than a “close encounters of a third kind” experience. Just saying. ;)

What you might deal with is heat soak if the fans can’t move enough air over the condenser core. But modern vehicles are immensely more efficient than even 10 year old vehicles.

You’re point?

They’re not designed to idle for extended periods, and doing so puts strain on the systems. that the cars are “more efficient” doesn’t change that.

the AC compressor isn’t a significant load, no. But it’ expects a certain engine RPM coming into it, and it’s designed at that. It’s significantly less when the engine is idling because that’s below it’s designed range. There’s a reason the manufacturers tell you not to idle your car for extended periods (mine says more than 10 minutes, my last one said 5.) and this is part of it.

the increase in RPM modern cars do isn’t for the AC system. it’s to keep the engine from stalling and running smoothly… the compressor is still not designed to operate at that RPM.

However, disagree with the statement that a climate control system is not meant to be operated while idle. That is an old myth that I expect came from back when there was fewer electrical components in the car so not turning the ac /off/ before turning the vehicle off would risk damaging the cars electrical.

that’s not actually a myth. The car is functionally not designed to be left on idle for extended periods. (Note, I’m saying extended periods. Warming/cooling your car at idle is normal. idling at a stop light is normal. Five minutes while waiting to pick some one up is normal. Leaving it to stay cool for 2 hours is outside that design window.)

When an engine is idling, it’s turning at a lower RPM than when moving. of particular note here is that the alternator and AC compressor are both driven by the serpetine belt directly connected to the crankshaft. The lower RPM makes both less efficient. For the compressor, what this means is that the AC system is turning more slowly than it normally would, reducing the total amount of cooling. For the alternator; it produces less electricity and may cause the battery to be discharging. Depends on some things, including how hard the AC is having to work, etc.

Further, because the car is not moving, there is less air moving around the engine compartment (or wherever the radiator for the engine and the AC is located.) This equates to higher operating temperatures for the engine, as well as yet more reduced ability for the AC system to remove excess heat from the cabin.

just because an AC can be run at idle for extended periods doesn’t mean it’s designed to, and doing so, especially on old or poorly maintained systems, in excessive heat, is likely to cause it to crap out where it wouldn’t have normally. Is it a particularly high probability? Not really. Is it still too high considering it’s a life-safety system? fucking absolutely.

one of the kids was 2. she had a kid at 18.

Still not an excuse. I knew I wasn’t supposed to be left in a car alone at five. I knew that because I wanted to stay in the car and mom wouldn’t let me. I’ll have to apologize for the tantrum I probably threw.

wait… the staff KNEW?

Fuck them too.

I mean, it could be interesting if they piped in ambient noise from outside the boarding area, etc, into the boarding area, particularly around the windows where you can see your plane and stuff.

Or like if there’s an observation lounge watching take offs and things.

I assume that’s not what they’re talking about because no way an airport could be that cool, but details.

And that assumes the AC didn’t crap out earlier because it was left idling in ridiculous heat. The system is not designed to be idled that long, and the cooling systems assume the car is moving for most of the time it’s on. (Both the engine and the cabin ac here.)

Even if the car didn’t turn off automatically, it’s still dangerous and in the “extremely stupid” degrees of negligence.

….why? Was it just the display shoe or something?

They’re supposed to.

It’s all part of the service, right? Also losing internet could be dangerous in the same way a landline phone cable is. (Ie preventing someone with VOIP phone service from calling for help.)

It can also cause harm for people who work from home, etc.

Tie them down first. That way you can get paid for the full session.

Show of hands.

Who here thinks this was actually an accident?

Because apple only maintains phones on an individual level?

And probably literally everyone who writes apps for iOS, as they would now need to account for everyone’s potential behavior.

It’s not “only”. Especially if you had to account for every possible variation in hardware. It’s more complexity and that means more opportunity for bugs.

Because everyone always goes out and gets the new phone?

Yes. It’s an issue.

ETA: some quick searches and it seems the most common phone in the 13, with around 60% being the fourteen or older.

Ironically, the reason she can’t is because it’s a physical switch.

If she turned it off for you , then the physical indicator on the switch would be wrong, but she has no ability to move the switch.

Just to for the record, if your car can’t avoid a pothole, you shouldn’t be calling it any kind of self driving.

I’ll leave the attachment to logicbomb. Humans tune out unless they’re fully engaged. We’re easily distracted, even if our heads are up and eyes open.

And chances are, they weren’t. Because “full self driving” is marketed specifically as… you know… full self driving…

Still. Both Lupo and I would pay money to see them try and put a hat on a gator.

What’s it cost to hire an assassin? Teslas might be cheaper.

Less reliable, though.

It’s cheaper.

And someone in the courthouse trolling him for it.