GrapheneOS (@[email protected])
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@[email protected] Linux itself is heavily using AI models. Therefore, every Linux distribution moving to recent kernel versions is heavily built on top of using AI models. Creating a Linux distribution not heavily using it would require a hard fork of the Linux kernel and many other projects. It's unclear what would be accomplished by banning AI for a tiny portion of the code while continuing to use Linux, AOSP, Chromium and hundreds of other projects heavily using it. We'd still be benefiting from it.

GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.

We do not understand where you’re coming from or why you’re so incredibly angry with us. It’s not justified and does not make sense.

    • MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish
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      9 days ago

      If Vibe coding means people who don’t know how to code creating code… yeah, that’s kind of like giving people who don’t know how to paint an airless gun and 5 gallon bucket and telling 'em to go for it on this building here…

      • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
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        9 days ago

        Even people who can code tend get worse over time the more and more they rely on “AI” to avoid having to think too hard.

        Studies have shown doctors who rely heavily on “AI” are similarly affected.

        • Eheran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 days ago

          People using calculators stop being able to calculate things and don’t even get me started in these evil “abacus” things that strip people off their short term memory! People using cheap paper to write whatever they want will not only have worse calligraphy but also write about whatever comes to their mind! Etc. etc. history is full of this.

        • MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish
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          9 days ago

          People who rely too heavily on anything get brain atrophy with net negative consequence.

          Those same tools can be used for learning and exploration and strengthening skills - all a matter of how they’re used.

    • 0x4f1@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 days ago

      This is the key point.

      From my reading that is not the limit in how they are using AI. It seems like they are accepting LLM generated code as inputs.

      This pretty much compromises the whole project as far as I am concerned.

      • verily@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        9 days ago

        Considering Graphene’s entire reputation is staked on extremely precise definitions of security, this is a little concerning.

        They’re the “best” (read: most secure) mobile operating system. If the best degrades, I don’t foresee some Graphene alternative stepping up very quickly (see also: cross-platform alternatives to Google-made Chromium and Google-funded Gecko)

        • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          9 days ago

          is the linux kernel “the best”? because they are using AI tooling. Linus actually threatened to use LLM to maintain sparse if nobody stepped up…

          is curl the best? because the creator of curl has also used/accepted LLM code…

          if the creators of two of “the best” pieces of software ever made are accepting (NOT embracing or promoting… just accepting) LLM code… maybe it’s time for us to think about the possibility that this MIGHT be a useful tool instead of everyone just yelling “SLOP SLOP SLOP” everywhere…