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Much harder and much more illegal to interfere with a drone; I’d be shocked if these needed replacing due to vandalism at all, let alone as frequently as people take out terrestrial Flock cameras.
Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Either you’re a super-genius that has worked out a cost-effective widely-adoptable anti-drone technology or technique that simply hasn’t occurred to Ukraine/Russia/USA/Iran/Oman/Saudi Arabia/etc…
…or you’re just a person on the internet with an inflated ego.
I know which one I think is more likely, especially given you weren’t able to differentiate between “Canon” and a “cannon.”
There are devices like that, but no civilian is going to have access. There have been pictures of secret service or other protection details at public events with one individual having an electronics device in hand.
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone. Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
I’m pretty sure drones get destroyed all the time it’s just that there’s a lot of fucking drones and I don’t think the militaries of the world are opposed to sending 50 drones to have 1 hit the target.
Yeah you’re overestimating the amount of effort it would take to thwart 1 drone.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone.
For no apparent reason.
Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
And you think fiber optics are somehow impossible for law enforcement to deploy for what reason? Not to mention that has nothing to do with your Canon strategy, so goal-post moved successfully I guess.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
I’m sure you have plenty of ideas. I’m less sure that most or any of them are worthwhile - at least as far as drone countermeasures go; if they were, you’d be far too busy making tons of money selling such equipment to the aforementioned countries.
They need a reason to be different? Kinda getting desperate.
Yeah I don’t see fiber optic being useful for flock cameras because well a car can run into the fiber optic cables and either pull it out of the drone or the operator using it. And it’s liability let’s say you they land on a power line and get fried or short the grid.
Could you imagine winding up a fiber optic cable every time just you use a flock camera? Yeah your gonna use the wireless model.
My ideas are probably already implemented. Either because I got them from someone else or I got them from an existing technology.
If anything I’m importing the ideas from Russian war
Actually I do think it would be difficult for cops to use fiberoptic cable for the stated reason of being a speed trap. Militaries don’t usually clean up after themselves, but having miles of fiberoptic along the expressway is probably dangerous and definitely littering. Not to mention they would have to be constantly purchasing more fiberoptic just to read license plates.
Military use is expendable, domestic use needs to be reusable.
In practical terms, drones can’t respool their fiberoptic tether - in any dynamic environment, the fiber will at some point become entangled preventing it from being retracted. While there are prototype systems that use Power Over Fiber to keep a drone (and usually it’s cable to prevent entangling) aloft indefinitely, all of those I’m aware of have an extremely limited weight capacity (far too little to support a decent optical setup) and aren’t much of a concern.
Otherwise, a pursuit drone with an optical tether is a poor solution; it will leave fiber strewn behind it, the fiber is extremely vulnerable to accidental damage from something like a car or being wrapped around a sharp edge, has limited range and requires the base station to be static (so one could simply Hit Da Bricks their way out of a pursuit). There’s also almost never a concern about wide area jamming in the civilian locales that these might be deployed in, so there’s no real reason to use fiber instead of military style frequency-hopping radios.
That hypothetical microwave cannon would be an equal threat to both (if it exists), and if someone deploys a jammer to evade pursuit you can simply identify the epicenter of the disruption and follow them that way (something the FCC does regularly). And that’s ignoring that there are AI-enhanced systems that can follow a target autonomously until the drone is able to reestablish a connection to the controller.
Honestly, birdshot and other drones are probably going to be the best counter to these systems.
That gonna cost so much money to replace
Much harder and much more illegal to interfere with a drone; I’d be shocked if these needed replacing due to vandalism at all, let alone as frequently as people take out terrestrial Flock cameras.
IDK I got plenty of 338 ready to go 🤷
dam tahs fukin tuff
Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Either you’re a super-genius that has worked out a cost-effective widely-adoptable anti-drone technology or technique that simply hasn’t occurred to Ukraine/Russia/USA/Iran/Oman/Saudi Arabia/etc…
…or you’re just a person on the internet with an inflated ego.
I know which one I think is more likely, especially given you weren’t able to differentiate between “Canon” and a “cannon.”
There are devices like that, but no civilian is going to have access. There have been pictures of secret service or other protection details at public events with one individual having an electronics device in hand.
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone. Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
I’m pretty sure drones get destroyed all the time it’s just that there’s a lot of fucking drones and I don’t think the militaries of the world are opposed to sending 50 drones to have 1 hit the target.
Yeah you’re overestimating the amount of effort it would take to thwart 1 drone.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
For no apparent reason.
And you think fiber optics are somehow impossible for law enforcement to deploy for what reason? Not to mention that has nothing to do with your Canon strategy, so goal-post moved successfully I guess.
I’m sure you have plenty of ideas. I’m less sure that most or any of them are worthwhile - at least as far as drone countermeasures go; if they were, you’d be far too busy making tons of money selling such equipment to the aforementioned countries.
They need a reason to be different? Kinda getting desperate.
Yeah I don’t see fiber optic being useful for flock cameras because well a car can run into the fiber optic cables and either pull it out of the drone or the operator using it. And it’s liability let’s say you they land on a power line and get fried or short the grid.
Could you imagine winding up a fiber optic cable every time just you use a flock camera? Yeah your gonna use the wireless model.
My ideas are probably already implemented. Either because I got them from someone else or I got them from an existing technology.
If anything I’m importing the ideas from Russian war
Yes, they need differences to be different. Sorry if that doesn’t make sense to you.
But that’s not a reason nor does it explain why they need a reason to be different. Curious if you’ll go metaphysical.
They are different I’m just laughing at that “for no reason” response. It’s like you meant it to mean something.
Actually I do think it would be difficult for cops to use fiberoptic cable for the stated reason of being a speed trap. Militaries don’t usually clean up after themselves, but having miles of fiberoptic along the expressway is probably dangerous and definitely littering. Not to mention they would have to be constantly purchasing more fiberoptic just to read license plates.
Military use is expendable, domestic use needs to be reusable.
I think you’re assuming the police would use the drones to kamikaze blow things up, leaving the fiber-optic behind.
In practical terms, drones can’t respool their fiberoptic tether - in any dynamic environment, the fiber will at some point become entangled preventing it from being retracted. While there are prototype systems that use Power Over Fiber to keep a drone (and usually it’s cable to prevent entangling) aloft indefinitely, all of those I’m aware of have an extremely limited weight capacity (far too little to support a decent optical setup) and aren’t much of a concern.
Otherwise, a pursuit drone with an optical tether is a poor solution; it will leave fiber strewn behind it, the fiber is extremely vulnerable to accidental damage from something like a car or being wrapped around a sharp edge, has limited range and requires the base station to be static (so one could simply Hit Da Bricks their way out of a pursuit). There’s also almost never a concern about wide area jamming in the civilian locales that these might be deployed in, so there’s no real reason to use fiber instead of military style frequency-hopping radios.
That hypothetical microwave cannon would be an equal threat to both (if it exists), and if someone deploys a jammer to evade pursuit you can simply identify the epicenter of the disruption and follow them that way (something the FCC does regularly). And that’s ignoring that there are AI-enhanced systems that can follow a target autonomously until the drone is able to reestablish a connection to the controller.
Honestly, birdshot and other drones are probably going to be the best counter to these systems.
I think you’re assuming that fiberoptic isn’t going to get caught on shit all the time.