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stravanasu@lemmy.ca to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 days ago

Google is silently linking phone numbers across accounts — the privacy risks and how to stop them

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Google is silently linking phone numbers across accounts — the privacy risks and how to stop them

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stravanasu@lemmy.ca to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 days ago
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53939468

One number, zero privacy?

  • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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    Don’t. Use. Sim. Cards.

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      … So dont use mobile phones?

      • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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        No, mobile phones are fine. Just never put a Sim card in them, and leave them in airplane mode at all times.

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          … So don’t use mobile phones. Use mini tablets.

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      Unfortunately many providers have MFA procedures that require a phone number.

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        so far I’ve been able to get around that with the method Michael Bazzell describes in his book:

        1. buy a prepaid card, this comes with a carrier phone number (cash, in store if possible)

        2. transfer the prepaid number to a VOIP service

        3. the number, having been created for carrier service, does not fall into the VOIP generated set, meaning (so far, anyway) MFA and other services requiring a ‘real’ number do not turn this away, even if it is currently a VOIP number.

        repeat/rotate as necessary

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          How long does said number last/stay valid? This is all fascinating as I’d never heard nor read of this before. Would you be willing to go into more detail, like naming such VOIP services, etc.?

        • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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          Brilliant. What provider do you recommend for VoIP? And how much does it cost?

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            I don’t recommend any, to be honest. the ones I’ve tried all have quirks that make them annoying to use, so unfortunately I haven’t settled on one I can recommend. that said, $5 USD per number per month is very much the high end you should expect, you can get decent results for much cheaper.

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          I’m not sure this is much different in the end… they have a different number linking all your accounts, but they’re still all associated with one person… you. I don’t see how it matters if it’s a cell or voip #.

          • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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            It is difference. Sim cards can push arbitrary remote code execution to your device from towers.

            That gap makes a huge difference

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              I’m replying to you because you sound like you know a lot about it. I have Google Fi service with an “eSim”. It can’t possibly be true that a Sim card is better than an eSim, can it? An eSim is total vapor. I have to beg Google Fi to turn it in or transfer it. At least a Sim can be transferred manually. So if Sim is no bueno, and an eSim is no bueno, then what, pray tell, is the 3rd option here? Is there some much better option that busy “normies” can choose?

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                The problem is the baseband processor.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor

                Leave the phone in airplane mode 100% of the time, and use WiFi

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          Great, a walk around loophole that soon enough will be closed too

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      How else do you receive calls?

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        Signal, Wire, Matrix, WhatsApp, etc.

        Worst case: SIP

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        What for?

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          Do you never leave your home?

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      Are you implying an eSIM is better…?

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        No

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