She felt uncomfortable telling Nègre that she wanted return to the office to use the toilet, so told him she was cold as an excuse to go back to the building. But she says he walked away, guiding them towards the banks of the River Seine, so she told him she needed to find a toilet urgently.

"He looked me right in the eye and said, ‘Oh, do you need a wee?’

“I felt like a child. I thought it was really weird the way he looked at me, almost gleeful.”

She says he directed her to the door of a storage cupboard under a bridge on the Seine and said: “You can do it here.”

Now, Anaïs is one of nearly 250 women who believe Nègre drugged them in alleged incidents between 2009 and 2018, subjecting them to what is known as chemical submission, where drugs are used to gain control over someone.

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    She says Nègre told her that he knew of a public toilet nearby, but when they arrived at the location there was no toilet.

    “I was really starting to suffer… pains to the point that I was white, pale, I had tears streaming down,” she says.

    Marie-Hélène says she had no choice but to urinate in public. She says Nègre offered to shield her with his jacket.

    “I was terribly embarrassed,” she says. “He didn’t take his eyes off me.”

    Marie-Hélène says that for years she felt ashamed.

    Like Anaïs, she was also contacted by police who told her she was among Nègre’s alleged victims. “It was a very big shock,” she adds.

    Like with most rapists, it’s all about power and control and humiliation.

    People outside of the US love to sneer and look down on us for electing a rapist pedophile. It’s the entire fucking world that is run by rapists like these.

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      Yeah, no.

      Police abuse INCIDENTS happen all over the world, yes, but the US police forces are the only ones (in Democratic countries anyways) where abuse isnjist standard operating procedure.

      Other countries too may have incidents with rape and abuse and abuse of minors, but again, the US seems to have made all that a past time hobby of sorts. I recall a sub reddit specifically for posts about Republican government employees at all levels being child rapists. There were daily posts.

      The world can’t really hold a candle to the USA in that matter

      Also not in school shootings, come to think of it

      Or just shootings in general

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        I’m not talking about school shootings or police forces.

        There are many rapists in positions of power around the world. Rape is about power. And people who seek positions of power often abuse those positions.

        We live in a world dictated by patriarchy. This is a symptom.

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      Capitalism is designed to favor the cluster b people. Narcissists, psychopaths and the like. The easiest way to the top is to backstab your way up. It’s only natural that they end up concentrated at the top.

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      People outside of the US love to sneer and look down on us for electing a rapist pedophile. It’s the entire fucking world that is run by rapists like these.

      Not anywhere near as much as in the USA. Nor as high up, like at the very top level of elected politicians.

      There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

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        but even this guy is just a civil servant

        He’s a civil servant. Enough said.

        Also going to completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn’t seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

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          He’s a civil servant. Enough said.

          Have you met a civil servant? Does it look like they run the world? And he also wasn’t elected.

          completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn’t seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

          Uhm… can you at least try to read the comment you reply to? I specifically mentioned fucked up royalty in Europe.

          And they still aren’t elected. Nor are they politicians. Nor do they actually run a country.

          Also, please calm the fuck down. I’m disagreeing with your conspiracy theory. I’m not attacking you personally.

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            He’s still in an HR role. He’s been preying on women for decades. This doesn’t happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

            There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

            The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven’t lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

            Civil servants literally work for the government. To say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it’s not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

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              This doesn’t happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

              More general statements that don’t mean anything, still not even weak evidence for your strong accusation.

              The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven’t lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

              Aaaand more logical fallacies. You clearly haven’t got any evidence for whatever claim you’re making, to be perfectly honest.

              Civil servants literally work for the government.

              Still not a politician. Still not elected. You elected the Epstein class into power. That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world. Period (to quote you).

              say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it’s not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

              No. Tripling down on a statement and attacking someone who disagrees with you over some conspiracy theory that you can’t back up for the life of you is what’s wild.

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                That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world.

                The Epstein class doesn’t exist only in the US.

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                  Where is the European Epstein scandal then? The Asian? The Australian?

                  You elected a fascist sex offender into your most important office. Don’t drag the rest of the world into this just because having elected him —twice even— makes you feel bad. Or tell me, who is the European or Asian Trump?

                  Yes, sexual assault happens everywhere, but no, there is no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

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                    The Asian Trump is in a prison cell in The Hague. Hopefully they manage to convict him before USA Trump finishes his rugpull of the ICC.

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                    -Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

                    -Sarah Ferguson

                    -Ehud Barak

                    -Miroslav Lajcak

                    Just to name a few that were in the Epstein files and are not from the US. And that’s just a handful of government officials.

                    They were all protected as well. There were hundreds to thousands of people involved in the coverup and are still working to protect these powerful people.

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                    no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

                    You are delusional if you think there are no other world leaders that have sexually assaulted or raped others.

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      Yeah, individual offenders aren’t the problem it’s the systems of power that let them offend like this that are the problem.

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      It is now 15 years since Anaïs’s encounter with Nègre and seven years since she first spoke to police.

      Like many of the other accusers, she is frustrated at the length of time it is taking for Nègre’s case to come to court.

      Meanwhile, the alleged perpetrator has continued to work in human resources, according to Fondation des Femmes, a women’s rights group that is supporting about 30 of the women affected.

      He still works in HR as well.