I have a very pragmatic view on music: all I care about is whether it sounds good or not. That’s it. That’s literally it. And from that standpoint the advent of AI music has been a major net positive for me.

You can choose to ignore that and come tell me about the ethics of using AI or how you care about the story behind the song and so on and that’s all fine but just note that you’re no longer addressing what I’m actually saying here.

I’m also not claiming it’s great - only that it’s good. I’ve yet to discover an AI song that I go back to like I do with many human-made songs but if I want to put on a playlist playing in the background then one consisting of entirely AI-made music reliably provides me well above average track after another whereas with organic music I need to sift through a ton of absolute crap to stumble upon the occasional good track that still rarely exceeds what AI is able to output. I can go on YouTube and put on a 2 hour playlist of Jazz House or similar and I don’t get the urge to skip a single track.

Currently I feel like where AI still trips is lyrics - they still are only plausible sounding nonsense once you actually start paying attention to it but especially for instrumental music it has far exceeded the level of a good average human artist.

Few examples of what I’m refering to: with vocals and without.

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    It is related to the discussion because appreciation of media comes from a basic understanding of it. Not saying expertise here, but knowing what it takes to make something allows you to appreciate it.

    In addition, it kind of cements the belief that people who like AI art and consider it the same as non-AI art tend to be devoid of artistic appreciation.

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      If that’s the cartoon image that helps you to fit me into your “AI bro” category then by all means. Nothing for me to gain here even trying to convince you otherwise. I just don’t see what you’re hoping to achieve with this.

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          Your first sentence was a simple statement. Calling someone an AI bro who wouldn’t know how to make a decent beat to save their life, to me at least, is an insult.

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            That is true

            OP seems to think it’s just a simple statement too. If they were an accomplished musician being told they can’t make a beat to save their life then sure, it would be an insult, but as OP readily admits across the thread they really do have no experience with or knowledge of music.

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              And do you? Something can be true and still be an insult. You’re also reasoning in the opposite direction because OP didn’t say he hasn’t had any musical training when that comment was made.

              I would’ve been offended when someone made that remark to me as well, even if I didn’t play the piano. Because those two things aren’t related.

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                And do you?

                Yes.

                OP didn’t say he hasn’t had any musical training when that comment was made.

                You’re just being a sophist - OP hasn’t used those specific words to make that specific comment but he made plenty of comments across the thread, not just in that one specific reply, about his understanding of music that contain those sentiments.

                I would’ve been offended when someone made that remark to me as well, even if I didn’t play the piano.

                If you’re offended by being called out for not knowing what you’re talking about maybe you shouldn’t talk about things you don’t understand.