cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68754751

There was a time I chose Firefox over the Chromium browser without a second thought. But nowadays, installing and opening Firefox seems like a time-consuming, very bloated experience.

Too many unnecessary features, promotions, sponsored links, and widgets are filled on the homepage. All the settings are now more complex, and there is a lot to set up after a fresh install.

When I compare modern Firefox with Firefox ESR, I feel like I am using browsers like Vivaldi or Opera instead of Firefox. Seriously, Firefox must consider releasing a browser like Brave Origin (Firefox Origin or something).

Isn’t anybody else frustrated with the new Firefox changes? If yes, what practical solutions exist? Debloat using any script or install any forks (no forks seem to be good; some are outdated, some are too much hardened, some are just not for daily browsing, etc.).

I’m just looking for a browser like Ungoogled Chromium but for Firefox (Unmozillaed Firefox).

  • Senal@programming.devEnglish
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    3 hours ago

    I reread the narcissist thing and I’m really not sure what you mean then. Are you calling the Brave CEO a narcissist?

    I was referring to a theoretical corporate defence version of the narcissists prayer and was again bitten by my ridiculous expectation that meme/reference knowledge is universal

    Specifically your defence of brave sounded to me like this slightly altered version of that prayer

    That didn’t happen.
    And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
    And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
    And if it is, that’s not their fault.
    And if it was, they didn’t mean it.

    I wasn’t trying to imply you are they were narcissists, only that your reply sounded a lot like that prayer.

    I wasn’t sure if you were referring to either or both, so I responded to both versions of what you could mean by that. Based in your last comment I have a feeling I didn’t hear something recent about them, as far as I know everyone still likes them.

    ah, again, with my assumptions:

    TL;DR; A mullvad founder donated a large amount of money to what is largely considered to be a right wing political party

    Here’s a small selection links, should be easy to search once you know what to look for:

    Note, there is obviously bias and opinions here, have a look in to the actual details yourself for a full picture.

    I do see a pattern, which is why I said I don’t fully trust them …etc

    I agree with all of that up to this part:

    Brave I trust a little less, but I see them in a similar way: often trying to find a crackpot method to make money off their product so they can stick around.

    If their crackpot experiments are at the expense of the things i care about i’m out, but that’s a personal opinion, not a universal viewpoint.

    I can’t say I’m a fan of their CEO. Then again, I can’t say I particularly like any CEO of any company,…etc

    Again, all reasonable takes up to the end part:

    I’m forced to pay Microsoft for licenses and support at work, and that bothers my conscience more than using a free browser by a guy who didn’t support gay marriage in 2014 before it went through federally, like just about everyone I grew up with, most of whom have since gotten over themselves. Not saying it’s OK or right, just noting that was at least half of Americans back then.

    “He’s not as bad as musk and gates, plus everyone of that generation was like that” sounds a lot like an excuse, even if you specifically state that it isn’t.

    I agree with your assessment that Firefox used to be the default good option and get steadily worse every day. …etc

    Agreed

    Does this make Firefox a stupid option that I’d criticize people for using? No. It is still one of the best options we ha…etc

    Again, agreed, until the end.

    “I’m gonna do it anyway” VS “Hey guys what about this?” “WTAF were you thinking Brave?” “Oh, sorry…”

    That’s entirely glossing over the nature of the sketchy shit being pulled.

    As we said mozilla are just stacking those shitty decisions like they were bricks of gold.

    but they haven’t done anything even remotely a sketchy as :

    • Referral injection/affiliate jacking
    • Replacing ads with their own
    • This

    Presenting it like they are doing comparable things is disingenuous at best.