What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I’m looking for:

  • Non-profit.
  • European-based if possible.
  • Paid is fine.
  • Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.

My reason to want non-profit is that it’s the best way to align mine and the provider’s incentives, I think. I’d consider for-profit as well, but it’s best if it’s a non-profit.

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don’t meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I’m donating to them, but I have my worries. I’m willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that’s not worth discussing.

Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?

  • vas@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 days ago

    It looks interesting. However, few things are hard for me to process:

    • They seem to be busy with hosting, an IPO last month and honestly quite interesting sounding projects like home heating as a heat sink for their datacenters. That honestly sounds interesting. But on the other hand, for emails specifically, I’m thinking of something very single-focused, narrow-scoped. “Do one thing but do it well” type of approach.
    • I got lost in their docs trying to understand if they support inbound encryption with a user-provided PGP key or not.
    • They require SMS registration. Like reaaalllyyyy? Sorry for this emotional part, I just so didn’t expect this. It’s a disaster from almost every possible angle. It’s terrible security, trivially remotely hackable. Terrible privacy. I guess it may help them just a tiny bit with their non-paid accounts as a throttle barrier (so that I don’t register 1000 times in a row). But man, it’s not worth all the negative aspects that this brings.