• kungfuratte@feddit.org
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    18 hours ago

    I don’t care about 2FA and Passkeys, they’re mostly fine. But I hate, hate, hate forced logins via magic links or 2FA by email or SMS.

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      6 hours ago

      2fa over email is light years better than 2fa over sms for a whole slew of security reasons.

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      15 hours ago

      Yah the first time I saw it I was like wow so clever, but now I’m like why do you disrespect our purest form of online speech for your transactional babble

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      15 hours ago

      What other 2FA methods are you looking for? I have seen a couple sites that will call you, but that is really just verbal text messaging.
      The stay logged on and trust this system actions are probably controlled by a browser cookie, so won’t work if you don’t allow cookies from that site.

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        11 hours ago

        a magic link is not 2FA if it doesn’t also require a password. it’s 1FA, they just replaced the one factor.

        honestly i really hate websites that do that and yet don’t allow password-only 1FA. like sure, i understand that the average user’s password discipline is crap, but as a power user i’d really like it if all my accounts weren’t tied to all my other accounts sometimes.

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        15 hours ago

        even if you clear your cookies, the session token id still exists for the website

        Some websites treat the first login you ever done as a sort of root of trust, for example for account recovery they might ask if you can to verify it is you on that session

        Some websites use the number of login sessions and how many recent times you have logged in for theie hidden trust factor, and some may even lockdown your account if it gets too low automaticly

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          6 hours ago

          everyone knows to clear their cookies but absolutely nobody thinks to clear their localStorage, sessionStorage, or indexedDB. i have never once in my life seen someone include those when telling someone else to “clear their cookies.” even including cache in that list (e.g. using ctrl+shift+r to refresh the page instead of ctrl+r) is weirdly uncommon.

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      17 hours ago

      Yeah. Fuck those. I just now have this case, where I cannot login to a service I pay a subscription for. Contact support, wrote explicitly “I looked into the spam folder. I even looked into the logs of my mailserver, your mailserver does not even contact mine”.

      Wait for two days, answer is (of course) “have you looked into your spam folder?”, nothing else. As soon as I manage to login, I cancel 😅 (jk, cancelled the payment already). Fuck those.