• stylusmobilus@aussie.zone
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    5 days ago

    I legit do not understand…

    Peaceful national shutdown, the one thing very few of them talk about.

    They either like the excuses or the dreaming about rioting, but anything useful that requires action is anathema.

    It’s literally the only thing that isn’t violent and would get their Houses moving and it’d take about two weeks which isn’t even enough time to evict someone let alone starve (which they bitch about anyway) but there’s no willingness to make the effort or go through the hardship.

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      4 days ago

      Because it would have violence inflicted on it well before that two weeks. I agree it’s a great opening move, but you have to be ready to fight to protect the general strike, both against opportunists who’ll scab for the ruling class and against the goons they’ll throw at you to break the strike.

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        4 days ago

        Because it would…

        Again, this comes across as a preempted excuse, I’m sorry. That’s not necessarily the case and then you do have to have the forces fully against the public.

        This is the problem…nothing can apparently be done, because there’s always reasons not to, never reasons to.

        The truth is, the country’s people aren’t willing to go through hardship, it’s that simple. They are happy for others to, applaud people like the French but won’t do it themselves and when that’s pointed out, we don’t understand the complexities or some other shit.

        Yes, you might have to fight the general strike in some areas. Yes it’ll take hardship. It’d also take about two weeks at most. Hardly enough time to be evicted or starve, or do without healthcare which apparently is an existing issue anyway.

        Nobody else is bailing them out, that’s for certain.

        We’re also getting tired of their politics being forced on us on top of it. We didn’t vote for fucking CPACS and we don’t want to be inundated with their fucking military.

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          3 days ago

          I didn’t say not to, I said it’d be tantamount to just opening with a violent attack on a bank. The ruling class will react the same way to any threat to their wealth and power.

          If we started a general strike, anyone who’s got any kind of platform and discussed the strike in any kind of positive light can expect their door to be kicked in by a federal SWAT team by day 2 or 3.

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            3 days ago

            That’s gonna be hard if it’s a substantial amount of the population. Not all of those police and SWAT teams are going to be keen on pushing through with it either, if the other decision and direction results in them keeping jobs in the future and a better government.

            Honestly it’s either that, hope for the best (all of which have failed thus far) or it goes down badly.

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              3 days ago

              That’s gonna be hard if it’s a substantial amount of the population.

              It won’t be. First off a substantial amount of the population doesn’t have a platform big enough to cause problems. Secondly, most of the people who do are friendlier to the ruling class than they’d like you to believe.

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                3 days ago

                It won’t be

                I get the feeling that once it’s collapsed and you’ve gone out to bully others, rpthen those others fight back, it might be.

                If it gets to that, hopefully the others give them a decent beating.