You could argue vegetable milk is also contributing to killing the planet. Doing that is clearly pointless.
well it’s killing the planet much less and we need some kind of nutrition to live
Is the pollution produced by the production of milk significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?
is the pollution produced by private jets significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?
climate change is due to a combination of a lot of things. we need to tackle a lot of different problems. none of them is killing the planet on their own, but we need to look at the big picture
Work on improving the efficiency of the Haber-Bosch process used in the production of nitrogen just 1%.
is this realistic? we can reduce dairy consumption right now
That will probably have a stronger impact than removing all milk production and private jets from the planet.
“will”, “probably”. we can reduce emissions right now by switching to plant based products, no need to wait for alternatives pop up when climate change is much worse
it’s a combination of things, reduction of consumption and working on reducing the emissions from production of dairy, since there’s some people that will struggle with switching to plant based alternatives due to intolerances, allergies and stuff
most people can reduce or stop consumption of animal based products and there’s no real excuse not to at least work on making some improvements
Yes, industrial processes are optimized all the time. Sometimes investment is needed: there are nitrogen production factories which were built later and are more efficient than older ones.
we can reduce dairy consumption right now
Yes and no, you can stop consuming dairy on your own; worldwide reduction is quite a different thing to achieve. Not impossible, but definitely not going to happen right now. Milk production has indeed been increasing steadily throughout the years regardless of the higher share of people who became vegan around the world.
I like to eat cheese.
Thus I ask, if I make the effort to not eat cheese and to have other people not eat dairy and this leads to no milk production in the next 15-20 years. Does that actually lead to any measurable difference?
Milk has higher environmental impact than plant based milk ≠ milk is unsustainable.
Milk is in fact a very nutritious aliment and many parts of the world depend on it as base for nutrition.
sustainable means nothing if something that is killing the planet counts as sustainable
Is milk killing the planet? That’s news to me.
The fact that there are more sustainable alternatives to milk is not evidence that milk is unsustainable.
it’s one of the things that’s killing the planet
i wouldn’t call it sustainable if the end result is an unlivable planet, if nothing is done about the emissions
You could argue vegetable milk is also contributing to killing the planet. Doing that is clearly pointless.
Is the pollution produced by the production of milk significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?
well it’s killing the planet much less and we need some kind of nutrition to live
is the pollution produced by private jets significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?
climate change is due to a combination of a lot of things. we need to tackle a lot of different problems. none of them is killing the planet on their own, but we need to look at the big picture
Work on improving the efficiency of the Haber-Bosch process used in the production of nitrogen just 1%.
That will probably have a stronger impact than removing all milk production and private jets from the planet.
There are places in which it is more efficient to optimize since that optimization will lead to a greater benefit.
Is reducing the production of milk potentially one of these important optimizations?
is this realistic? we can reduce dairy consumption right now
“will”, “probably”. we can reduce emissions right now by switching to plant based products, no need to wait for alternatives pop up when climate change is much worse
it’s a combination of things, reduction of consumption and working on reducing the emissions from production of dairy, since there’s some people that will struggle with switching to plant based alternatives due to intolerances, allergies and stuff
most people can reduce or stop consumption of animal based products and there’s no real excuse not to at least work on making some improvements
Yes, industrial processes are optimized all the time. Sometimes investment is needed: there are nitrogen production factories which were built later and are more efficient than older ones.
Yes and no, you can stop consuming dairy on your own; worldwide reduction is quite a different thing to achieve. Not impossible, but definitely not going to happen right now. Milk production has indeed been increasing steadily throughout the years regardless of the higher share of people who became vegan around the world.
I like to eat cheese.
Thus I ask, if I make the effort to not eat cheese and to have other people not eat dairy and this leads to no milk production in the next 15-20 years. Does that actually lead to any measurable difference?
Or maybe I’d better focus on doing other things?