my point is that if you went to a central authority like that you’re still likely to get corpo bullshit behavior. Because that’s how they talk.

With most Linux distros maybe you can avoid that, but you’re also dealing with a very small number of people with nothing on the line. So it’s comparing apples to trains.

There is 5+ more years to it than that

The founder and frontman of graphene, the person who “stepped away” but did no such thing, the man who insisted for years he wasn’t the only face of graphene but very very clearly was based on his social media posts, has had a long history of abusing both individuals and organizations within the broader privacy enthusiast community. You, like the article, need to stop looking at “he said and she said so they both seem bad” and look at what actually happened and judge for yourself. Graphene has post after post after post of circular logic pointing back at mythical attackers with no actual proof to show for it. People who want daniel @ graphene to get the help he needs have post after post after post of recorded abuse and several videos exist documenting that abuse. So it’s his word and circular logic vs a long record of incident after incident after incident of abuse.

Tldr graphene is run by someone who appears to be brilliant but also appears to suffer from undiagnosed mental health issues and nobody has been able to convince him to get the help he needs. In the meantime, he has spent large portions of the last 5 years ranting and abusing people on the internet. I have the advantage of having watched it play out in real time, but records and archives exist.

The short version is they take grapheneos’ abuse of others at face value and appear to take grapheneos’ side. Graphene is by all outward appearances a good product, but their founder has a great deal of untreated mental issues related to paranoia and has a long history of abusing other groups and encouraging his most loyal followers to do the same. As far as I’m aware I am not exaggerating this in any way and I hope the founder eventually admits he needs help.

So if one of your items is someone with paranoid delusions, and you don’t question that in any way and make it clear by your words you’ve taken that person’s side, I cannot take any other argument seriously without doing my own checking (which I have not done yet, hence my original phrasing).

Who is the authority you would go to for Linux issues? Like i kinda get your point but it’s a little bizarre to compare apples to trains.

Their auth is better than the tool itself (last time I evaluated options which was maybe a year ago)

Except the person who wrote that, regardless of the actual issues with FUTO, cannot be trusted and is an unreliable source.

I really would encourage people to not treat that guy as a real source, but use it as a starting point for evaluating his sources, such as they are, on their own merits.

Oh it’s lemmy I ignore that most of the time

Nah just doin a little light jesting

Samsung breaks so many things about android and makes them unequivocally worse that it’s hard to call it android

So it’s a purple state that has been shifting liberal. Which means…not famously liberal.

A little strange that you think Samsung makes Android phones.

Deeply wrong

I’m pretty sure they used the word shareholder value one too many times and people brought out the noose.

Right, so it works real well if you already know where you’re going.

I mean that’s where this conversation started: osm works fine if you already know where you’re going.

I don’t know anything about where you live, but traffic is wildly variable where I am and so I need it. Note I’m not one of those people who uses their gps to go to the grocery store, we’re talking journeys of 30+ minutes, usually 60+, on interstates. Yeah if you’re going to trader joes the traffic doesn’t matter, but I sincerely hope people aren’t whipping out gps to drive 10 minutes to somewhere they’ve been hundreds of times.

I really don’t why everyone is trying so fucking hard to convince me to switch. I have multiple osm apps installed to my phone at all times. They just don’t work well in any of the places I’ve lived in the last decade.

You’re also seemingly of the belief I haven’t added data to the maps, which is wildly wrong. I still support osm, it’s just not good.

That’s comaps now that organic is persona non grata

I don’t really know what happened but when your app only works with community support and the community hates you enough to hard fork the app, it’s time to switch.

This is a straw man. I have no interest in that, what I want is to be able to see points of interest more or less immediately after the business appears and I want search to work. The immediately problem could easily be resolved by lots of these restaurant vendors like door dash, slice, etc incorporated adding the restaurant to osm and it would basically cost them nothing.

And if I used a commercial map to find the place, why wouldn’t I stay there? Google maps also has better directions because it has traffic data. Like I get we all hate google but the argument osm is good or even fine just doesn’t make sense to me.

Oh I’m running osmand~ and comaps and magic earth.

And by running I mean I occasionally confirm its still not good enough yet